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romney said today under duress that the romney/ryan position is the romney/ryan position, there's no difference between them. and he said you'll hear more about it at the vice presidential debate tomorrow. i bet you will. joining us now is steve kornacki, co-host of "the cycle." thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> the democrats have been aggressive in driving their campaigning on this issue, because they think that's a key issue for locking up the women's vote. with this walkback, this attempted and failed walkback that happened within the last 24 hours from the romney campaign, do you think that's going to have an impact there? >> yeah. there's some interesting data that came out in the last few days which i think is what was initially behind what mitt romney said, taking a more moderate position on abortion. first you had this poll that came out in ohio, showing obama ahead of romney by four. the gender gap in this thing was astounding. among men, romney had a 16-point lead in ohio. among women, 60-38, obama. that is like a 38-point gender gap. i have not seen someth
romney said today under duress that the romney/ryan position is the romney/ryan position, there's no difference between them. and he said you'll hear more about it at the vice presidential debate tomorrow. i bet you will. joining us now is steve kornacki, co-host of "the cycle." thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> the democrats have been aggressive in driving their campaigning on this issue, because they think that's a key issue for locking up the women's...
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of romney-ryan and obama-biden. that's what we're debating tonight. >> why do people watch a vice presidential debate? do they watch it for a policy debate, or do they watch it to see can these guys become president of the united states? >> this stuff is always anecdotal. it's like sports. people have an opinion out of these debates. i think about it more as this month. these few weeks, the debate phase of the campaign. up until now, the entire campaign is about tv ads, surrogates arguing on televis n television, media pundits providing the analysis. and what was striking about last week's debate between governor romney and president obama, first time 90 minutes unfiltered, these two men going face to face, challenging one another. that's what this is about. it's just about suddenly we get to see the two leaders, in this case, the two vps. >> sort of philosophical. just part two of this philosophical debate. >> correct. it's the only moment in the campaign. last week 70 million viewers. this week, who knows how many
of romney-ryan and obama-biden. that's what we're debating tonight. >> why do people watch a vice presidential debate? do they watch it for a policy debate, or do they watch it to see can these guys become president of the united states? >> this stuff is always anecdotal. it's like sports. people have an opinion out of these debates. i think about it more as this month. these few weeks, the debate phase of the campaign. up until now, the entire campaign is about tv ads, surrogates...
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couple of weeks from the romney-ryan campaign. a week ago, we had a presidential debate, mitt romney all of a sudden said there was no $5 trillion cu tax cut. i imagine that will be a topic. paul ryan once said he didn't have time to do the math on the tax cut. openfully tonight over 90 minutes he can do the math for us. >> bret: you even concedeed on the show with the deduction and credits while they haven't listed them specifically it wouldn't $5 trillion. >> here is what i said. he put out a number of tax cuts whether it's the estate tax, lowering everyone's rate by 20%, getting rid of the amt, payroll tax, number of tax cut he put on the table. the sum of the tax cuts is $5 trillion. >> bret: he said in the debate? you capped it, set a cap you could reach it. tax policy center which you cite, campaign cites says that you could reach the number that he is talking about -- >> no, it didn't say that. if you could reach the number -- you could add up the deduction and loopholes to $5 trillion if you raise taxes on the middle class
couple of weeks from the romney-ryan campaign. a week ago, we had a presidential debate, mitt romney all of a sudden said there was no $5 trillion cu tax cut. i imagine that will be a topic. paul ryan once said he didn't have time to do the math on the tax cut. openfully tonight over 90 minutes he can do the math for us. >> bret: you even concedeed on the show with the deduction and credits while they haven't listed them specifically it wouldn't $5 trillion. >> here is what i said....
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ryan may have been a smart pick for romney despite his policy positions, not because of they'll. which is to say, he's been pretty good on the stump, in terms of ginning up enthusiasm. the policy stuff may have been his achille's heel and the campaign stuff a bonus. >> ginning up enthusiasm among republicans, probably -- i don't see where the enthusiasm is for him among independents in the body politic overall. i mean the policy positions he's taken, you know, god love him, at least there's someone in washington who is going to put really hard, specific policy prescriptions on the table, the problem, though, is that they're incredibly unpopular. we've gone from the road map for america's future foote of prosperity to the house budget that the budget that the house passed that they're now all running away from because they now know that the american people don't like the policy prescriptions are there. ryan is young, in great shape, very smart. but when people talk about the specifics and what his vision is, they're not going to like it and that's why tonight is fascinating becaus
ryan may have been a smart pick for romney despite his policy positions, not because of they'll. which is to say, he's been pretty good on the stump, in terms of ginning up enthusiasm. the policy stuff may have been his achille's heel and the campaign stuff a bonus. >> ginning up enthusiasm among republicans, probably -- i don't see where the enthusiasm is for him among independents in the body politic overall. i mean the policy positions he's taken, you know, god love him, at least...
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>> mitt romney put paul ryan on the ticket. that's not running away from the plan. >> but i mean -- he didn't embrace the ryan budget. it was too tough for him perhaps? >> correct me if i'm wrong, my understanding governor romney has been complimentary of the ryan budget plan and recognizes that we need to make reforms so that the big entitlement programs will be there for the next generation we need to tighten the belt on discreti discretionary spending. i disagree. >> mitt romney's tax proposals, because he has said that he can cut taxes without blowing up the deficit, without being deficit neutral, and at the same time keep defense spending. >> yeah. >> increase the defense budget. how does that work? >> governor romney said he can lower marginal tax rates and generate offsetting revenue so we don't increase the side of the deficit. >> how do you generate that? >> you reduce the number of write-offs and loopholes in some combinations. >> which would you reduce? he's not been specific. >> he's provided more specificity than t
>> mitt romney put paul ryan on the ticket. that's not running away from the plan. >> but i mean -- he didn't embrace the ryan budget. it was too tough for him perhaps? >> correct me if i'm wrong, my understanding governor romney has been complimentary of the ryan budget plan and recognizes that we need to make reforms so that the big entitlement programs will be there for the next generation we need to tighten the belt on discreti discretionary spending. i disagree. >>...
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whether the romney ryan ticket. this is happening in kentucky, a state known for derby, bourbon and one of the greatest fighters, muhammad ali. we'll have the vp debate here. the timing of this one makes it feel like a main event. q famed ring announcer michael buffer. >> ladies and gentlemen, let's get ready to rumble! >> and to show you we aren't done with all of this foolish boxing stuff, i want to bring in a veteran corner man. >> i can't open my eye. >> come on. >> get me. >> no, not burgess meredith, but howard fineman. howard, take us through, what are you expecting for this debate tonight? >> well, what i'm expecting is vice president biden to come out and repair some of the damage that the ticket took on last week in denver. i think the vice president knows that he has to answer some of the accusations that the president didn't a week ago and that joe biden has to attack on points that the president didn't do very effectively or specifically including what deductions, what end of tax credits do you want pau
whether the romney ryan ticket. this is happening in kentucky, a state known for derby, bourbon and one of the greatest fighters, muhammad ali. we'll have the vp debate here. the timing of this one makes it feel like a main event. q famed ring announcer michael buffer. >> ladies and gentlemen, let's get ready to rumble! >> and to show you we aren't done with all of this foolish boxing stuff, i want to bring in a veteran corner man. >> i can't open my eye. >> come on....
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>> well, i think it's interesting that paul ryan said that if romney and ryan get elected they're not doing anything about reinstating don't ask, don't tell, which contradict what romney said during the debates, the primary and the promises he made to the gop base. i would like to see them pressed on that. you know, lgbt people we tend to see progress under democratic administrations and not a lot of regress, sometimes benign, sames malicious neglect under republican administrations. >> finally, for you, what sort of message would you extend to lgbt youth. >> coming out is not the end it's better problems. when you first come out parents react negatively. it's important to have a backup plan, line up support. 40% of homeless teenagers are lgbt kids kicked out or thrown out after they came out. if you think your family might react negatively, have a place to go, have support, have friends who have offers you a couch. >> prepare. >> prepare. don't just come out blindly. ask for your parents' love and support but have a plan, a backup plan. >> dan savage, thank you. thank you for your ti
>> well, i think it's interesting that paul ryan said that if romney and ryan get elected they're not doing anything about reinstating don't ask, don't tell, which contradict what romney said during the debates, the primary and the promises he made to the gop base. i would like to see them pressed on that. you know, lgbt people we tend to see progress under democratic administrations and not a lot of regress, sometimes benign, sames malicious neglect under republican administrations....
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he may have to do what romney did -- ryan may have to do what romney did. >> following the debate last week, the commission on presidential debates issued this statement, following criticism of jim lehrer's performance in the first debate. robert watson, you were quite critical of jim lehrer last week. will we see a difference this week? >> i suspect we will. if i could quickly jump on the previous comment, i think we know that joe biden and paul ryan are both tough-nosed guys who can play pretty effectively, but what is interesting is they are so completely different. when joe biden first took his seat in the senate, paul ryan was about three years old. paul ryan has to be careful about looking disrespectful to someone a lot older than him. paul ryan, as was correctly noted earlier, tends to be kind of a policy wonk. that sometimes does not resonate. it did not resonate with obama earlier. joe biden like to connect in the gut. scranton joe likes to talk to the audience. we are going to see a completely different styles. i was very critical of jim lehrer in blogs and commentary. people
he may have to do what romney did -- ryan may have to do what romney did. >> following the debate last week, the commission on presidential debates issued this statement, following criticism of jim lehrer's performance in the first debate. robert watson, you were quite critical of jim lehrer last week. will we see a difference this week? >> i suspect we will. if i could quickly jump on the previous comment, i think we know that joe biden and paul ryan are both tough-nosed guys who...
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while ryan voted for bailout, how will that be handle fd it comes up tonight, the ryan/romney -- >> this is someone who has been a hero of right wing idealogs. he is going to go out there before the american people and renounce what his entire career has been, which is working and working as part of the right-wing republican caucus and being a champion. is he going to sell that out on the national stage? >> catch up with chris hayes saturdays and sundays from 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. eastern and krystal on "the cycle" right here at 3:00 prk m. on msnbc. >>> coming up, shocking comments from an ally of paul ryan. comments that are now forcing mr. ryan to drop his old friend after he says, quote, some girls rate easy. >>> plus, new problems for moderate mitt romney. a new tape from three years ago surfaces. this time, he's praising glenn beck. >>> and great news, things are getting better so the right-wing conspiracy theorists have hit the halls of congress. you're watching a special edition of "politicsnation." as we get ready for the big vice president debate in kentucky, the place for po
while ryan voted for bailout, how will that be handle fd it comes up tonight, the ryan/romney -- >> this is someone who has been a hero of right wing idealogs. he is going to go out there before the american people and renounce what his entire career has been, which is working and working as part of the right-wing republican caucus and being a champion. is he going to sell that out on the national stage? >> catch up with chris hayes saturdays and sundays from 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m....
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ryan, romney, romney of course on the top of the ticket. i think you've seen from democrats a real attempt to tie the republican ticket to the house republicans who don't have a very high favorability rating so that's going to be what biden's going to try to do, lay out point by point. he'd been reading that book "young guns" by some of those tea party folks partly authored by paul ryan. i think it's a matter of laying those facts out and hitting him back with his own words. $18 billion taken from medicare where he does the same thing in his budget. >> well, and as far as the gender gap numbers, easterin. president obama gained among women after the debate while romney gained them on men. we talked after the debate and you and others noted there was not a lot of conversation -- i mean, listen, we know that women are concerned about the economy. we get that. i actually even don't like when people say that because that is a no brainer. we're all concerned about the economy. everyone wants to work. and we know that there are men who are concer
ryan, romney, romney of course on the top of the ticket. i think you've seen from democrats a real attempt to tie the republican ticket to the house republicans who don't have a very high favorability rating so that's going to be what biden's going to try to do, lay out point by point. he'd been reading that book "young guns" by some of those tea party folks partly authored by paul ryan. i think it's a matter of laying those facts out and hitting him back with his own words. $18...
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ryan to get to romney. y'all keep saying it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. they don't have a program that's viable. joe will take them to the woodshed. >> greg: really? what do you think? woodshed? >> eric: i don't think there is a woodshed for either side. look at it logically. joe biden right now, the momentum after the last debate, momentum switched to romney campaign. joe biden, he wants to be president some day. he is not going to out there and take a chance to ruin 2016 for himself. he'll be aggressive. there is no reason to numberable ball. no reason to show off. keep it straight by the numbers. >> bob: he is smarter. have you read today's polls? >> greg: dana, you have limited experience with politics. do you think slogans are meaningless? g.m. is alive and bin laden is dead at this point. >> dana: i hope they don't use that. they need new material. we're hearing the same thing from 2008. like watching soap opera if you didn't pay attention and you just watched the last presidential election and
ryan to get to romney. y'all keep saying it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. they don't have a program that's viable. joe will take them to the woodshed. >> greg: really? what do you think? woodshed? >> eric: i don't think there is a woodshed for either side. look at it logically. joe biden right now, the momentum after the last debate, momentum switched to romney campaign. joe biden, he wants to be president some day. he is not going to out there and take a chance to ruin 2016...
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what we hear from romney and ryan is no specifics whatsoever. the only specific they've given of something they'd cut is the cut to pbs, which is one ten thousandths of what we spend in the federal budget. >> a $4 trillion number, which was a $5 trillion number, has been debated a lot, and has been fact checked at times to say false, partly because there's not enough detail to figure it out. >> where those cuts are going to come forward. so we could do what bush did, expanding military spending, giving tax cuts to the wealthy. this is what romney wants to do. but he doesn't tell us how we're going to pay for it. he won't tell one specific loophole that he'll close. i'm not reflexively partisan. i want to see a substantiative analysis of details o of what your plan is. don't hide the ball like we had in law school. tell us the truth of what you're going to do. ryan used to do that when he was talking about the ryan budget. he put specifics in the ryan budget. scary to me, talking about privatizing social security, voucherizing medicare, but if th
what we hear from romney and ryan is no specifics whatsoever. the only specific they've given of something they'd cut is the cut to pbs, which is one ten thousandths of what we spend in the federal budget. >> a $4 trillion number, which was a $5 trillion number, has been debated a lot, and has been fact checked at times to say false, partly because there's not enough detail to figure it out. >> where those cuts are going to come forward. so we could do what bush did, expanding...
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he was the only guy out there predicting a sweeping romney win. well, today it is senator bill nelson of florida predicting that joe biden will make mincemeat out of paul ryan. it is a dicey game. >> yes, he was spot on -- setting the expectations so high and really came through. talking to partisans on both sides, the job for the vice president tonight is to slow the momentum of governor romney. and ryan at this point, to try to change the dynamic once again, this is going to be a proxy fight, but you know what? paul ryan has a record, as well, and that is something that joe biden wants to exploit here. he will talk about the president and the 47% and talk about ryan as the idea of a lot of conservative thinking, the taxes, and spending. >> all right, david gregory, all part of the team for tonight's coverage of the vice presidential debate beginning tonight, 9 eastern, 6:00 on the west coast here on this nbc station. >>> we turn now to another major story out there today, the meningitis outbreak linked to tainted steroid shots for back pain. the
he was the only guy out there predicting a sweeping romney win. well, today it is senator bill nelson of florida predicting that joe biden will make mincemeat out of paul ryan. it is a dicey game. >> yes, he was spot on -- setting the expectations so high and really came through. talking to partisans on both sides, the job for the vice president tonight is to slow the momentum of governor romney. and ryan at this point, to try to change the dynamic once again, this is going to be a proxy...
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what governor romney and what paul ryan have said is let's have a fair flatter simpler more competitive tax code, bring down rates and broaden the base. start to get rid of all the different loopholes and all the different exemptions. and so this is how you can have a tax code again that is fair, flatter, simpler and is revenue neutral, which of course we have now -- there's at least a half dozen economists, economic organizations, who have said this is true. you've had fact checkers with respect to the president's claim that this increases taxers say that's false. it doesn't. so here is the framework and what mitt romney said is i'm willing to work with both sides of the aisle republicans and sdms to get the details right and t president has never worked with republicans. there is no doubt that the president wants to increase taxes on small businesses, the job engine of america. >> i think there's no doubt we just heard a review what have we might hear from paul ryan tonight. congressman, thank you so much. >>> and on that huge garage collapse in florida, authorities say a third constr
what governor romney and what paul ryan have said is let's have a fair flatter simpler more competitive tax code, bring down rates and broaden the base. start to get rid of all the different loopholes and all the different exemptions. and so this is how you can have a tax code again that is fair, flatter, simpler and is revenue neutral, which of course we have now -- there's at least a half dozen economists, economic organizations, who have said this is true. you've had fact checkers with...
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he needs to put their policies against romney and ryan. host: let's hear from james in missouri, an independent. everybody wants your vote. what do you think? caller: vice-president biden need to bring a calculator to the debate so that paul ryan can show us his budget. host: you think that will be one of those moments? caller: that's what needs to do. if they give enough time where he could show his budget instead of dodging the question all the time. host: you sound like you are voting for president obama. caller: yes. host: erick is a democrat in georgia. caller: every time ryan gets up there and they tried to lie, just like romney told lies the whole time he was up there. president obama needs to grill romney on a 47% comment and ask him about his opinion on abortion. and about the budget. them to what they said. every time they tell a lie, call them a lawyer. host: you sound passionate. does this debate tonight matter to you? we lost him. let's go to barbara, a republican in georgia. caller: hello. host: what do you think about tonigh
he needs to put their policies against romney and ryan. host: let's hear from james in missouri, an independent. everybody wants your vote. what do you think? caller: vice-president biden need to bring a calculator to the debate so that paul ryan can show us his budget. host: you think that will be one of those moments? caller: that's what needs to do. if they give enough time where he could show his budget instead of dodging the question all the time. host: you sound like you are voting for...
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mitt romney says he was not sure if paul ryan had had a debate, maybe back in high school. you don't want to bring up the phrase "high school" when you want to look presidential? >> all right, chuck todd, who will be part of our team during the live coverage of the debate tomorrow, 9 eastern time, 6:00 on the west coast here on this nbc station. >>> today, in washington, a lot of republicans in congress had a lot of questions about the obama mission, about the night in benghazi, when a sudden and ferocious attack took the lives of our u.s. ambassador, and at the american consulate there, along with three other americans. our report tonight from our chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell. >> reporter: sparking the confrontation, the two security officers from the consulate who said the requests were either turned down or ignored. >> we were fighting a losing battle. we couldn't even keep what we had. we were not allowed to keep what we had. >> it was very clear we were not going to get resources until the aftermath of the incident. >> reporter: republicans accu
mitt romney says he was not sure if paul ryan had had a debate, maybe back in high school. you don't want to bring up the phrase "high school" when you want to look presidential? >> all right, chuck todd, who will be part of our team during the live coverage of the debate tomorrow, 9 eastern time, 6:00 on the west coast here on this nbc station. >>> today, in washington, a lot of republicans in congress had a lot of questions about the obama mission, about the night in...
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romney and ryan both want it down at 20%. so there's a clear difference, and they all agree on where it should go. what gets interesting is as you dig into the detail of what gets cut, and you'll see some very, i think, fascinating differences among these guys. so on social security, as you heard president obama say in the last debate, the three guys are actually in the same place. they want to spend the same amount on social security in the next ten years. when you get to medicare, romney and ryan are in the same place, but romney actually a as you also heard him say, wants to repeal the $716 billion. it's actually $900 billion of cuts. he would spend more on medicare than ryan or obama. and then you have obamacare. >> let me ask you really quickly. if anybody has heard, let me know. has mitt romney said what he wants to do with the $716 billion? >> essentially it would be used to get his spending down to that 20% level because you're going to see in a minute, he has a bunch of other places he wants to spend money. >> spend
romney and ryan both want it down at 20%. so there's a clear difference, and they all agree on where it should go. what gets interesting is as you dig into the detail of what gets cut, and you'll see some very, i think, fascinating differences among these guys. so on social security, as you heard president obama say in the last debate, the three guys are actually in the same place. they want to spend the same amount on social security in the next ten years. when you get to medicare, romney and...
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ryan will try to keep romney's mittmentum going. dark there in kentucky, we hear, a little cold. so the new polls are out. is it a little good news for mitt romney? >> reporter: yeah, it is. it's continuing this trend we've seen over the last couple of days and that's what makes this debate so important. there is some momentum for mitt romney coming out of that first debate. we've seen a bounce in the national polls and in those crucial swing states. take a look at these. you mentioned these from "wall street journal" and marist, just out in the last few hours. let's look in virginia, where it's dead even. mitt romney at 48%, barack obama, 47%. that's a slight switch from a week ago. let's move on to florida. same story, pretty much. look at the president, 48%, mitt romney, 47%. that's about as close as you can get. it was just as close a week ago. and in ohio, the president still has an advantage there, but it is a little bit tighter than it was a week ago before the denver debate. how do americans feel about the two guys we'll meet tonight from this debate? look at this from pe
ryan will try to keep romney's mittmentum going. dark there in kentucky, we hear, a little cold. so the new polls are out. is it a little good news for mitt romney? >> reporter: yeah, it is. it's continuing this trend we've seen over the last couple of days and that's what makes this debate so important. there is some momentum for mitt romney coming out of that first debate. we've seen a bounce in the national polls and in those crucial swing states. take a look at these. you mentioned...
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analysts say the pressure is on paul ryan to maintain romney's momentum after last week's debate. joe biden's mission is to get the momentum back. debate coverage on nbc 4 begins tonight at 9:00 followed by news4 at 11:00. >>> we'll get more answers about the death of a giant panda cub at the national zoo. the cub lived for six days before it died late last month. zoo keepers now believe the panda was a female. a preliminary report showed the cub had liver abnormalities and fluid in its abdomen. the news conference starts at 10:00 a.m., we'll be there. look for the latest at nbcwashington.com. >>> hikers and bikers will see more police patrols on the popular trail in montgomery county after several violent attacks there. police say two attacks on capital crescent trail may be linked. they say a teenager grabbed two other teens on september 29th in the wisconsin avenue tunnel in bethesda and tried to rob them. on friday, police arrested a 16-year-old from rockville in the case. they believe the attack may be linked to a robbery in the same tunnel that happened back in july. >> i us
analysts say the pressure is on paul ryan to maintain romney's momentum after last week's debate. joe biden's mission is to get the momentum back. debate coverage on nbc 4 begins tonight at 9:00 followed by news4 at 11:00. >>> we'll get more answers about the death of a giant panda cub at the national zoo. the cub lived for six days before it died late last month. zoo keepers now believe the panda was a female. a preliminary report showed the cub had liver abnormalities and fluid in...
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vice president biden and romney running mate paul ryan head-to-head. plus, a wave of new swing state polls all within the margin of error. we'll knock it around with our "morning joe" crew. when we come back, we'll huddle around the water cooler to watch john stewart take on the media obsession with polls, like the one i just told you we'll be obsessing over at the top of the hour. "way too early" coming right back. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. yeah. yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...allstate safe driving bonus check? what is that? so weird, right? my agent, tom, said... [ voice of dennis ] ...only allstate sends you a bonus check for every six months you're accident-free... ...but i'm a woman. maybe it's a misprint. does it look like a m
vice president biden and romney running mate paul ryan head-to-head. plus, a wave of new swing state polls all within the margin of error. we'll knock it around with our "morning joe" crew. when we come back, we'll huddle around the water cooler to watch john stewart take on the media obsession with polls, like the one i just told you we'll be obsessing over at the top of the hour. "way too early" coming right back. [ fishing rod casting line, marching band playing ] [ male...
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and biden should call romney on it or paul ryan on it tonight. >> you should be specific about that, i grant you that. sometimes liar is the best way to explain it. a lie is better way to explain. not calling him a liar. jon: angela, you say that there is an advantage here in that you believe it sort of encourages people to do some digging and look for their own answers. >> you're exactly right. if you call mitt romney a liar, if you call obama a liar, we have internet today so people can research and go to either one's website, type the word in, dealing with policy pull it up much. by doing this we can turn lemons into lemonade. >> i agree with that. jon: landing on the positive. thank you both. jenna: a dra dramatic hit-and-run caught on tape and the victim flying in the air. the driver just takes off. what police are saying about it now. just an incredible video. we'll tell you more about the story and how the victim is doing. >>> governor romney in the meantime gaining ground against the president in several key states. we talked a lot about that. how much is really due to the de
and biden should call romney on it or paul ryan on it tonight. >> you should be specific about that, i grant you that. sometimes liar is the best way to explain it. a lie is better way to explain. not calling him a liar. jon: angela, you say that there is an advantage here in that you believe it sort of encourages people to do some digging and look for their own answers. >> you're exactly right. if you call mitt romney a liar, if you call obama a liar, we have internet today so...
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the challenge for ryan will be to fend off efforts to link his own past budget proposals with romney's economic vision. both have been practicing for tonight's 90-minute showdown with sparring partners, and biden admits he's been studying ryan's book. >> i just want to make sure that when i say these things that i don't have the congressman saying no, no, no, i don't have that position or that's not the governor's position. >> i think he's probably going to come at me like a cannon ball. but the achilles heel he has is president obama's record. >> reporter: let's talk experience. biden has the upper hand when it comes to that. the 69-year-old veteran politician has several debates under his belt. ryan cannot say the same. this is the 42-year-old's first vp debate. it all gets under way at 6:00 our time tonight. it's week held in danville, kentucky, at centre college. we will bring it to you live at 6:00. coming up we'll talk about who is expected to win. also president obama offering a little advice to biden. we'll hear what he has to say. jon and laura. >>> 6:16. if you happen to be w
the challenge for ryan will be to fend off efforts to link his own past budget proposals with romney's economic vision. both have been practicing for tonight's 90-minute showdown with sparring partners, and biden admits he's been studying ryan's book. >> i just want to make sure that when i say these things that i don't have the congressman saying no, no, no, i don't have that position or that's not the governor's position. >> i think he's probably going to come at me like a cannon...
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. >> i want ryan to be able to express what we want for our country, like romney did in the presidential debate. >> i think it will help obama if joe biden does well. >> reporter: with the debate hall ready at center college, paul ryan arrived, a 42-year-old republican whiz kid set to face a 69-year-old debate veteran. >> joe biden has been on this stage before. it's my first time. but what he can't run from is president obama's indefensible record. >> reporter: the vice president is sometimes hurting team obama with gaffes, that he won't dodge. >> looking forward to it. >> reporter: the stakes in danville look higher after last year's debate in denver. >> the reason is mitt romney's developed significant momentum from his debate performance from barack obama last week. >> reporter: romney, who last night held a big rally in sidney, ohio, narrowed the gap in that key state. in the new nbc poll, no change in florida, obama by one. romney up three since the debate. romney up two in ohio, trailing by six. >> you're talking about single digits, having picked sides as a result of the debate,
. >> i want ryan to be able to express what we want for our country, like romney did in the presidential debate. >> i think it will help obama if joe biden does well. >> reporter: with the debate hall ready at center college, paul ryan arrived, a 42-year-old republican whiz kid set to face a 69-year-old debate veteran. >> joe biden has been on this stage before. it's my first time. but what he can't run from is president obama's indefensible record. >> reporter:...
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. >> i want ryan to be able to express what we want for our country. like romney did in the presidential debate. >> i think it will help obama if joe biden does well. >> reporter: with the debate hall at center call, paul ryan arrived, a 42-year-old republican whiz kid set to face a 69-year-old democratic debate veteran. >> joe biden's been on this stage before. this is my first time. but what he can't run from is president obama's indefensible record. >> reporter: the vice president sometimes hurts team obama with gaffes, with trademark bravado, that he won't dodge. >> looking forward to it. >> reporter: the stakes in danville look higher after last week's debate in denver. >> the reason is that mitt romney's developed significant momentum from his debate performance against barack obama last week. >> reporter: romney, who last night held a big rally in sidney, ohio, narrowed the gap in that key state. in the new nbc poll, no change in florida, obama by one. romney ahead now in virginia, up three since the debate. romney up two in ohio, trailing by si
. >> i want ryan to be able to express what we want for our country. like romney did in the presidential debate. >> i think it will help obama if joe biden does well. >> reporter: with the debate hall at center call, paul ryan arrived, a 42-year-old republican whiz kid set to face a 69-year-old democratic debate veteran. >> joe biden's been on this stage before. this is my first time. but what he can't run from is president obama's indefensible record. >> reporter:...
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it mitt romney wins it will stay america.ure for biden anddent joe ryan facing off tonight. it is their first and only debate. it will take place and danville, kentucky. starts at 9:00 p.m. tonight on abc 7. here is angela foster. >> thank you. good morning. crash inng with a new the district, northbound north after florida taking up the right lane. on 95 on the northbound side. 395 a solid backup from the the district. traveling in maryland, william delays on the beltway over to greenbelt, college park, silver southbound 270. look at our forecast. >> a beautiful day. sunshine. is cool. temperatures widespread. the '40's. we will only make it into the 60's. 45 in winchester. 49 in the district. oakland at 32. to 62.way game, characters will o the 50's. breezy tomorrow. >> thank you. thank you for watching. when i was younger and... financially stable. we were poor. the mgm casino in michigan. and it changed her life. clerk. way up. insurance... and i make great money. seven will create... twelve thousand bs. to accountants... and construction workers. place to work with good
it mitt romney wins it will stay america.ure for biden anddent joe ryan facing off tonight. it is their first and only debate. it will take place and danville, kentucky. starts at 9:00 p.m. tonight on abc 7. here is angela foster. >> thank you. good morning. crash inng with a new the district, northbound north after florida taking up the right lane. on 95 on the northbound side. 395 a solid backup from the the district. traveling in maryland, william delays on the beltway over to...
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it's less than ryan's. and also people seem to favor ryan to biden to win this debate 40% to 34%. >> tracy potts live on capitol hill for us this morning. thank you. mitt romney's strong debate performance last week is helping him gain ground in critical swing states. a new nbc news, marist, "wall street journal" poll shows the former governor now leads the president in virginia. he has turned a two-point deficit last week into a one-point lead 48-47. in ohio, the president still leads, but romney gained two points since last week to shrink the gap 51-45. in florida, it is just a one-point lead for the president, 48-47. >>> romney is elaborating his position on abortion. his clarification comes after an interview earlier this week with a newspaper in iowa. the republican presidential nominee told "the des moines register" that if elected, he would not pursue abortion-related legislation. reporters asked him about that comment during a campaign stop in ohio. romney spelled out steps he'd take on the abortion
it's less than ryan's. and also people seem to favor ryan to biden to win this debate 40% to 34%. >> tracy potts live on capitol hill for us this morning. thank you. mitt romney's strong debate performance last week is helping him gain ground in critical swing states. a new nbc news, marist, "wall street journal" poll shows the former governor now leads the president in virginia. he has turned a two-point deficit last week into a one-point lead 48-47. in ohio, the president...
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that is to slow romney's momentum. he can do that by debating ryan to a draw. and also being more aggressive. make no mistake, this is going to be a precursor for what we'll see next tuesday. because aides for the president say he's going to have a lot more energy, be more aggressive. he watched the tape of the last video, he gets it and knows he has to come out differently. >> is there any danger that biden overcompensates, overlearns the lesson of the last debate? >> no question about it. but i think typically these kinds of debates usually are contested to a draw. i think that biden wants to be aggressive, could be overly aggressive, wants to focus on the 47%, wants to sort of draw out ryan in a way who is, after all, an architect in many ways, the conservative thought on budget, taxes and spending. >> all right, david gregory, chuck todd, thank you. we'll all be up late tonight, you can watch the vice presidential debate, 9:00 eastern, 6:00 pacific on nbc. >>> let's get to other stories making headlines this morning, for that we say good morning to natalie.
that is to slow romney's momentum. he can do that by debating ryan to a draw. and also being more aggressive. make no mistake, this is going to be a precursor for what we'll see next tuesday. because aides for the president say he's going to have a lot more energy, be more aggressive. he watched the tape of the last video, he gets it and knows he has to come out differently. >> is there any danger that biden overcompensates, overlearns the lesson of the last debate? >> no question...
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i just disagree with his policies. >> reporter: and mitt romney said he is confident ryan will have a strong performance. >> i think paul ryan will do great. thank you. >> reporter: in an exclusive interview with diane sawyer, the president talked about what he expects from joe biden. >> what's your message to joe biden about tomorrow night? >> you know, i think joe just needs to be joe. >> reporter: biden scored points in his last debate four years ago, in what turned out to be the most-watched vice presidential debate in history. >> the notion that somehow because i'm a man, i don't know what it's like to raise two kids alone. i don't know what it's like to have a child you're not sure is going to make it -- i understand. i understand. >> emotional moment four years ago, jon. the audience could top that audience tonight. and it's coming as we're getting new, solid polls from the key battleground states of virginia, florida and ohio. >> reporter: yeah. this is the key thing. we've seen a national polls, romney has gained on the president in some cases. actually moved ahead of the pre
i just disagree with his policies. >> reporter: and mitt romney said he is confident ryan will have a strong performance. >> i think paul ryan will do great. thank you. >> reporter: in an exclusive interview with diane sawyer, the president talked about what he expects from joe biden. >> what's your message to joe biden about tomorrow night? >> you know, i think joe just needs to be joe. >> reporter: biden scored points in his last debate four years ago, in...
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he's been studying paul ryan's policies, his speeches and his budget. meanwhile experts say the challenge for ryan will be to fend off efforts to link his own past budget proposals with romney's economic vision. >> i think he's probably going to come at me like a cannon ball. but the achilles heel he has is president obama's record. >> i just want to make sure that when i say these things that i don't have the congressman saying no, no, no, i don't have that position or that's not the governor's position. >> reporter: now, in terms of experience, biden has the upper hand. the 69-year-old veteran politician has several debates under his belt. ryan can't say the same. this is the 42-year-old's first 90-minute vp debate. it all gets under way at 6:00 our time tonight. it's being held at center college in danville, kentucky, and we will have it live so you can catch it right here on nbc bay area. coming up in my next live report we'll talk about who is expected to win tonight's debate. jon and laura. >> thanks, marla. >> looking forward to it. 5:20 right no
he's been studying paul ryan's policies, his speeches and his budget. meanwhile experts say the challenge for ryan will be to fend off efforts to link his own past budget proposals with romney's economic vision. >> i think he's probably going to come at me like a cannon ball. but the achilles heel he has is president obama's record. >> i just want to make sure that when i say these things that i don't have the congressman saying no, no, no, i don't have that position or that's not...